Coming back to re-read this and provide an objection after reading your most recent post. If you think that talking to strangers is ineffective, then you probably just aren't very good at street activism. Please look into Paul Bashir's AV protocol. It is highly effective. Two days ago, I got 6 people to commit to going Vegan in 1 hour and 50 minutes using their approach. This is a huge difference from the 1 person I got to commit to going Vegan in the entirety of last year using my own approaches.
I went vegan partly as a result of hearing an interview with Gary Francione. I've followed his work since then, and I find his arguments compelling. I've recently managed to convince at least two people to go vegan, one of whom is a primary care physician who now advocates a vegan diet to the patients in his lifestyle medicine practice. It's possible that talking to random people on the street is not an efficient way to promote veganism, but I don't think the shrimp welfare project is going to bring us closer to the abolition of animal exploitation. The phrase "boycotting veganism" just makes me sad about the future of animal activism.
so yall are worried about the suffering of sea bugs? this might be the dumbest thing ive ever heard. congratulations. also never drive any stretch of interstate in the midwest during summer. literal mass murder.
Hi, not everyone is worried about sea bugs but some people are and those who sincerely care about them do take some efforts to cause the least possible suffering in the domains you mentioned. (some people travel in public tranports only, etc)
Also, it's certain one can't live without imposing suffering on other beings. Some people just try to make the least adverse impact and some pay various reparations. (10% per year, etc).
the fact that, apparently, thousands of people gave tens of thousands of dollars and invested thousands of hours of time to "reduce the suffering" of sea bugs when it would take exactly zero effort to redirect that time, money and effort into reducing the actual suffering of fully conscious beings for whom even minimal suffering (which it is not. it is the greatest suffering imaginable) is infinite compared to a fucking shrimp, is FUCKING RETARDED. period.
There is almost zero chance I would go Vegan without a huge revolution in the taste, convenience and accessibility of plant based alternatives to a good steak.
These sort of articles have made me pick the slightly more expensive pasture-raised eggs though, and similar conversations years ago have caused me to reduce my meat consumption. For animal wellfare communicators I imagine it’s a lot more effective of a tactic to improve welfare, and slightly reduce meat consumption over a large group of people, rather than looking for the maximum commitment from each individual and seeming like an asshole or insane person.
Coming back to re-read this and provide an objection after reading your most recent post. If you think that talking to strangers is ineffective, then you probably just aren't very good at street activism. Please look into Paul Bashir's AV protocol. It is highly effective. Two days ago, I got 6 people to commit to going Vegan in 1 hour and 50 minutes using their approach. This is a huge difference from the 1 person I got to commit to going Vegan in the entirety of last year using my own approaches.
I went vegan partly as a result of hearing an interview with Gary Francione. I've followed his work since then, and I find his arguments compelling. I've recently managed to convince at least two people to go vegan, one of whom is a primary care physician who now advocates a vegan diet to the patients in his lifestyle medicine practice. It's possible that talking to random people on the street is not an efficient way to promote veganism, but I don't think the shrimp welfare project is going to bring us closer to the abolition of animal exploitation. The phrase "boycotting veganism" just makes me sad about the future of animal activism.
1500 per dollar per year!
so yall are worried about the suffering of sea bugs? this might be the dumbest thing ive ever heard. congratulations. also never drive any stretch of interstate in the midwest during summer. literal mass murder.
“so yall are worried about the suffering of sea bugs?”
Hi, not everyone is worried about sea bugs but some people are and those who sincerely care about them do take some efforts to cause the least possible suffering in the domains you mentioned. (some people travel in public tranports only, etc)
Also, it's certain one can't live without imposing suffering on other beings. Some people just try to make the least adverse impact and some pay various reparations. (10% per year, etc).
the fact that, apparently, thousands of people gave tens of thousands of dollars and invested thousands of hours of time to "reduce the suffering" of sea bugs when it would take exactly zero effort to redirect that time, money and effort into reducing the actual suffering of fully conscious beings for whom even minimal suffering (which it is not. it is the greatest suffering imaginable) is infinite compared to a fucking shrimp, is FUCKING RETARDED. period.
There is almost zero chance I would go Vegan without a huge revolution in the taste, convenience and accessibility of plant based alternatives to a good steak.
These sort of articles have made me pick the slightly more expensive pasture-raised eggs though, and similar conversations years ago have caused me to reduce my meat consumption. For animal wellfare communicators I imagine it’s a lot more effective of a tactic to improve welfare, and slightly reduce meat consumption over a large group of people, rather than looking for the maximum commitment from each individual and seeming like an asshole or insane person.