> Sam Tucker-Davis, who’s developing AI for animal advocacy, estimates that the entire training run of his Open Paws LLM only emitted one-third as much CO2 equivalent as a single hamburger. Or, in other words, “[i]f this LLM convinces just one person to skip one burger, it’s already carbon-negative.”
Okay but this narrowly focuses only on the training run of a specific AI model and overlooks the broader lifecycle emissions and resource consumption involved in AI development—such as manufacturing GPUs, maintaining data centers, continuous retraining, electricity... That should really be included in the assessment.
> Democratic constituencies are affluent white liberals who don’t want their property values to go down and social justice interest groups and unions that want to impose onerous environmental, equity, and labor standards on everything.
I think this somewhat caricatures and simplifies the left. E.g. I would say that they've been very pro public transport and walkability for decades, but they think it's just one part of a broader agenda. It's trivially easy to make a SJW a YIMBY but they're just rightly worried about where this abundance agenda is coming from: https://newrepublic.com/article/189303/san-francisco-moderate-politics-millionaire-tech-donors
I disagree "it's trivially easy to make a SJW a YIMBY", I have attempted this many times and my success rate for is quite low (though maybe I am just not very convincing). Most of the lefties I know are quite anti-development for anything other than public or below-market-rate housing
Really?!? Have you tried pointing out that exclusionary zoning started out as a racist and xenophobic measure, and still has that effect today? That it was championed by the right and center, and opposed by leftists? Have you tried pointing out that public transport has historically been championed by the left because of its anti-racist, anti-classist effects and it was the conservatives and classical liberals that opposed it? Have you tried pointing out that it has a great effect on air pollution and climate change? Have you tried pointing out that walkability is a concept created by leftists and that it has anti-racist, anti-classist, pro-environmental, pro-mental health effects? Have you tried pointing them to urbanist youtube, 99% of whom are leftists?
I guess I am not very convincing then :). these are all good things to point out. I have previously made the case mostly based on property rights and economic efficiency which are of course very right-coded concepts and probably fail for that reason.
I don’t think YIMBY is uniformly opposed to the economic interest of affluent white liberals, their opposition seems more like a cultural/aesthetic thing (plus economic illiteracy). Lots of them would benefit greatly from being able to sell their house to a developer, or from having their kids be able to afford to live near to them. Homeowners get the most upset about housing developments near them, and barely care about developments even a few streets town, which makes little sense from a perspective of selfishly maintaining your property value. Plus you see in the data renters being nearly equally opposed to new development as homeowners (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZQkPXSwlPA&t=1070s).
> Sam Tucker-Davis, who’s developing AI for animal advocacy, estimates that the entire training run of his Open Paws LLM only emitted one-third as much CO2 equivalent as a single hamburger. Or, in other words, “[i]f this LLM convinces just one person to skip one burger, it’s already carbon-negative.”
Okay but this narrowly focuses only on the training run of a specific AI model and overlooks the broader lifecycle emissions and resource consumption involved in AI development—such as manufacturing GPUs, maintaining data centers, continuous retraining, electricity... That should really be included in the assessment.
> Democratic constituencies are affluent white liberals who don’t want their property values to go down and social justice interest groups and unions that want to impose onerous environmental, equity, and labor standards on everything.
I think this somewhat caricatures and simplifies the left. E.g. I would say that they've been very pro public transport and walkability for decades, but they think it's just one part of a broader agenda. It's trivially easy to make a SJW a YIMBY but they're just rightly worried about where this abundance agenda is coming from: https://newrepublic.com/article/189303/san-francisco-moderate-politics-millionaire-tech-donors
I disagree "it's trivially easy to make a SJW a YIMBY", I have attempted this many times and my success rate for is quite low (though maybe I am just not very convincing). Most of the lefties I know are quite anti-development for anything other than public or below-market-rate housing
Really?!? Have you tried pointing out that exclusionary zoning started out as a racist and xenophobic measure, and still has that effect today? That it was championed by the right and center, and opposed by leftists? Have you tried pointing out that public transport has historically been championed by the left because of its anti-racist, anti-classist effects and it was the conservatives and classical liberals that opposed it? Have you tried pointing out that it has a great effect on air pollution and climate change? Have you tried pointing out that walkability is a concept created by leftists and that it has anti-racist, anti-classist, pro-environmental, pro-mental health effects? Have you tried pointing them to urbanist youtube, 99% of whom are leftists?
I guess I am not very convincing then :). these are all good things to point out. I have previously made the case mostly based on property rights and economic efficiency which are of course very right-coded concepts and probably fail for that reason.
I plan to eat extra meat, just to offset you guys. While reading Nietzsche.
I don’t think YIMBY is uniformly opposed to the economic interest of affluent white liberals, their opposition seems more like a cultural/aesthetic thing (plus economic illiteracy). Lots of them would benefit greatly from being able to sell their house to a developer, or from having their kids be able to afford to live near to them. Homeowners get the most upset about housing developments near them, and barely care about developments even a few streets town, which makes little sense from a perspective of selfishly maintaining your property value. Plus you see in the data renters being nearly equally opposed to new development as homeowners (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZQkPXSwlPA&t=1070s).